Question:
Why does everyone seem to hate Bose?
Jonathan
2012-10-28 07:57:51 UTC
Just wondering.

Here is my side of story:

When i go into the Bose store and do the theater demo it shocks me how much these little tinny speakers are making such awesome sound. Plus I don't see any other company have 2, small compact speakers with such awesome sound that feel like surround sound.

Along with that, when ever i look on sites reviews it seems the Bose products are always getting higher reviews. for Example: Best Buy almost all Bose surround sound speakers make in the top 30 when you take all the surround sound systems they have (like 250) and sort them by highest rating..

I am thinking of getting the Bose® - CineMate® Series II and it has 205 reviews and yet has 4.4 stars.

Along with looking on Chutchfield in the Easy Three-speaker Systems the top three products with highest reviews is Bose: http://www.crutchfield.com/g_316250/Easy-Three-speaker-Systems.html?o=r&tp=6519&avf=N

So, what do you think? again I am just wondering. I wanna know others peoples side of story.
Nine answers:
Beryllium
2012-10-28 08:07:51 UTC
I dunno but I would NEVER pay $350 for a headset or speaker dock. I'm no audiophile and I generally don't care.
ANDRE L
2012-10-28 10:17:57 UTC
Just A Couple Reasons Why Bose Sucks



First I just need to clarify something so we’re all on the same page here. Bose speaker systems are entry-level… if you think they’re audiophile-quality or anything even close to it then you are severely misinformed. So why all the hype? Well the reason I think is simple: they have an aggressive marketing plan. Just think about it - how many TV commercials or popular magazine ads have you seen for Bose? Now think about how many of those things you’ve seen for any other speaker manufacturer. Anyway, to get on with the story, I’ve highlighted the two most blatant deficiencies of Bose speakers in my opinion.



Fatal Flaw #1: Full-Range Drivers



All of Bose’s home theatre systems utilize full-range drivers. This is probably already known by most or all of you, but full range speakers attempt to recreate frequencies across the entire audible spectrum (roughly 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz). Now most of the Bose home theatre systems do include a subwoofer, so maybe the other channels only have to produce frequencies as low as about 200 Hz, but this still leaves far too broad a frequency range for a single driver to effectively operate across. Quality speakers have a tweeter dedicated to producing crisp highs, along with a larger woofer and possibly a mid-range for generating lower frequencies. Bose’s insistence upon using only a subwoofer and a collection of 2.5″-diameter full-range drivers means that the high frequencies aren’t accurate and the mid-bass frequencies (roughly 200 Hz to 500 Hz) are seriously lacking.



Fatal Flaw #2: Cheap Materials



Bose uses paper cones for their speakers. Actually, I believe they call it something like “space-age paper”, whatever the hell that means. The bottom line is paper warps far too easily, resulting in inaccurate reproduction of sound, especially at high volumes. An easy way to observe this is to listen to a loud Michael Bay-esque explosion through both a Bose system and an actually decent one (explosions are an example of a complex sound effect containing low rumbling, high crackling, and pretty much every frequency in between). The decent system will sound noticeably cleaner and Bose will sound distorted or muddy - I promise. Most good speakers utilize some sort of high-tech plastic or composite material because they are more rigid and durable than paper, resulting in a more accurate sound.
Kevin
2012-10-28 20:54:24 UTC
If you read the comments & reviews against Bose, you'll get pointed to articles, websites, etc. that will allude the idea that there's only one single way that music or movies should sound, and if you have a different opinion then your opinion is wrong. They'll talk about how Bose price fixes their stuff (even though I see some of it on sale every single week in the newspaper ads). And how they spend a trillion dollars on marketing and 75 cents on their R&D & materials (how does that matter at all if it sounds good to my ears?). And the list goes on.

My opinion is that the people that hate on Bose are snobs. And their shtick is that they're "in the know" or they're in the "audiophile community", or something along those lines, as if they're higher up than anybody else who enjoys good sounding stuff. And they'll spew off names of speaker manufacturers that everyone WILL like.

To me all that bad stuff is just a crock. If people like how Bose sounds then they should buy Bose. If they like Polk or Paradigm or whatever, then buy that.That's really all there is to it. And if they don't want to set up their speakers according to some kind of THX disc or have some "expert" calibrate their stuff then who cares, chances are they'll still enjoy it. end rant
agb90spruce
2012-10-28 09:41:38 UTC
Bose get lots of criticism from those that know something about sound and value. Bose products get good reviews from buyers at BestBuy, etc because they superficially sound good (but in reality give poor sound) in that most people who don't know better think lots of bass is a mark of good speakers. The problem is that Bose speakers generally have very poor midrange (important for vocals and many other types of music) and are made with poor materials and with little attention to expandability ... yet are very expensive. It's not that Bose are bad, so much as being poor value. Bose try to position their as high end equipment while in fact they are mediocre at best.



When you hear a demo it is with selected music and with extensive equalization equipment (often not included) to help make the little speakers sound bigger. It's smoke and mirrors.



There is a reason Bose advertise to affluent seniors ... they equate high price with quality, are generally ignorant of what to listen for in speakers (wide, flat frequency response, clarity/transparency, sound stage, etc).



You would not be alone in choosing Bose, and if they sound good to you it's your $$ ... but just know that experts almost never rate Bose speakers very high and that that you can almost always get better bang for the buck from alternative products. See the 1st link for a listing of highly rated small 5.1 speaker systems ... note Bose aren't even on the list. Look at reviews of the Energy Take Classic 5.1 vs Bose at Best Buy ... better sound, lower price.



See the last link for an article on Bose... A bit dated, but eye opening.
Grumpy Mac
2012-10-28 12:57:58 UTC
"Along with that, when ever i look on sites reviews it seems the Bose products are always getting higher reviews."



Look again.



You are probably reading paid marketing or advertisements - not reviews.



Bose sues any site or magazine that tries to print a review.



Search for "Bose vs Consumers Reports" to learn why.



This is one of the reason we hate Bose - they will not allow a real review.
tom7railway
2012-10-28 09:30:32 UTC
Here is MY side of story.

I think Bose make equipment of medium quality but charge top end prices. They put lot of pressure on outlets not to publish prices, this makes it hard to compare suppliers and to compare bose with the competition. They put a lot of money into advertising Bose products as the best you can get, the implication being that if you want the best, you don't make a fuss about the price, you just buy it.

I have used Bose PA speakers and was happy with them, their Panaray range is pretty good. There's no law says you can't buy Bose gear, I would just say listen to a number of speakers in your price range and if you like the Bose best, buy them, your ears should decide it.
tew3020
2012-10-28 10:56:04 UTC
I agree with others. Overpriced, and use inexpensive materials.

If you don't know what an equalizer is, then check online info.

You can take almost any medium quality speaker, and make it sound extra exciting.

That's one of Bose's methods.

If you have stereo system now, get an equalizer (look on Ebay, cheap). You will be able to adjust sound to fit your room.
anonymous
2016-02-25 04:50:03 UTC
Bose is the most overrated speakers on the market. The only thing Bose is good at is marketing.
mark_hensley@sbcglobal.net
2012-10-28 14:26:55 UTC
When I read your question, I thought to myself (in a light hearted fashion) Oh God this guy has opened up a can of worms that will not die. The wise cracks are hilarious its not that serious it really is not. If you consider results only, I can tell you unequivocally the Bose name is placed on some of the more adorned and prestigious institutions, from the historic Saint Peter and Paul Catholic Church to the University of Minnesota's state of the art $20 million dollar, 9000 seat Hockey Arena to name just a few. Bose automotive sound systems are in the following automotive brands: Alfa Romeo, Audi, Buick, Cadillac, GMC, Renault, Infiniti, Lancia, Maserati, Maybach, Nissan, Porsche, Chevy and Mazda. Do those names sound like a cast of idiots and rookies? You can best believe Mercedes Maybach is not going to besmirch its good name with Bose front and center by cutting corners they don't have to. Don't take my word for it, check the list of names associated with Bose and you will find I am spot on.



And I dare say it is not merely because of the marketing, but because of the performance exceeds what the manufacturer expects and what the institutions have in mind for the auditory experience weather God's presence or a heated rivalry. So, these pros on here that will tell you facts, their facts are laughable against the results. If you want to purchase Bose Cinemate Series II because it sounds good to your ears you are in good company. Review after review underscores a simple fact these people are not paid to fool you. Like anything you look at the body of work based on the claims, Bose stands taller than most because of performance or they would not be in the same sentence with performance brands.



On the consumer side Bose does a good job with the Bose Cinemate Series II. The Bose Video Wave TV is better than any other brand as a single whole unit meaning all in one. The package is more robust and entertaining because no other manufacturer has put into their tv the audio that even comes close to rivaling Bose, unless recent. They do a good job with tht Bose Sounddock 10, Wave Radios and Companion 5 as well as Bose 20 computer speakers. Recently Bose 901s were reviewed in Tone Audio. The 901's are inefficient using an old school equalizer but they are a very musical speaker, the reviewer states that its no different than the digital signal processors in competitor's speakers to do the same electronically. As for paper speakers, anyone worth their salt will tell you paper speakers have a long and storied history in some of the finest brands ever made. The critics will say Bose uses untreated paper, well then don't get it. I can tell you this my experience with Bose has been a good one. I stand by Bose because the brand has been reliable over the years.

I don't know that you need to add anything to the Cinemate Series II it might be fine stock, if so you are good, that is all that really matters here. For me, I don't live with stock anythiing. I always look to improve on what I invest because it can be improved on if you take the time and make the effort. I have had great results in doing so with Bose you can too. Anyone, who is one sided it shows their own limitations and prejudice. You must base your opinion on a balanced informed view, a collection of a series of coherent arguments then weigh the difference. To always be one way about one thing and other facts are staring you in the face based on the customers not just the consumer end of it, well they are flat wrong, I don't care how long they been in the game. Address the list of storied names who affix their brand to Bose, they must know something. I tell you no different than I would my own family or what I have done for myself, not because I am a fanboy, a sucker or ignorant of the facts. Its because I have taken the time to know the facts on both sides of the argument. This too is the other side to take into consideration. Some of the criticisms of Bose though irreverent is justified and true, but not across the board.



What I like most about Bose is the company is based in Framingham, Massachusetts with no intentions to move. I would guess Bose costs more because many of its products are built in the good ole US of A. Why stone Bose when the country has to be willing to pay for the cost of building here versus over there. I love many other audio brands too, have you ever thought you can get more for less because Bose products are primarily built in here instead of Shen Zheng Province or Hong Kong? Those factory workers are paid a buck fifty a week, not even the jauggernaut we know as Apple can make such a claim. If Bose puts out a product that lasts for 20 odd years and my ears are not offended and it sounds good to me, I will spring for the cash of buying Bose for these reasons too. This is what Bose does well, very well even better than most.



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